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victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
Sidekick Lesson
May 2 2008, 3:38 PM EDT | Post edited: May 2 2008, 3:38 PM EDT
Let me School you people in Layman's terms about the ring tone situation.

#1. There are 2 types of memory on the SK3, SK4, & Slide. First is the internal memory which is limited, and the removable memory which is basically limited to the size of memory card you buy.

#2. The external memory you can access via usb, the internal memory you CANNOT access PERIOD!!!! (except for pictures). THE RINGTONES ARE STORED on the internal memory!!!!!

#3. You cannot access the internal memory, unless you are a developer, and/or have the programming access and permission from danger corp.

#4. Just like and over the air update. Ringtones are sent to your phone wirelessly, and have special programming code that allows the ringtone to be installed.

#5. If you ever hacked into the Sidekick (only by a miracle),
Danger servers would get detect the activity and immediately DE-ACTIVATE THE DEVICE. (you are not allowed to tamper with any danger device)

If you didn't know already, every piece of information on your internal memory is saved on danger servers. (phonebook, emails, text messaging, ringtones, etc.)

Please stop the whole ringtone Bull Sh*t.
Be happy you can program themes, etc.
Besides, you have a couple bucks to buy a latte' or Redbull, but you can't spend a couple bucks on a ring tone?

P.S. T-mo makes MILLIONS of dollars on downloadable content, which offsets the price of unlimited emails, internet, Instant messaging, and texts.

Would you rather pay $50 for a DATA plan and have free ringtones.
Or pay $20 bucks for a data plan and buy a ring tone once and a while.

Please get off the subject now.

Thanks,

T-MO GURU 220  out of 268 found this valuable. Do you?    
Shorteh
Shorteh
1. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 2 2008, 5:18 PM EDT | Post edited: May 2 2008, 5:18 PM EDT
You are f_ing funny! But yeah I just got started and this forum and first time sidekick owner, but I already knew I have to buy the ringtones.. 2  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
2. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 4 2008, 1:45 AM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 1:45 AM EDT
Hey shorteh, by the looks of your pictures your pretty hott! 3  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
Shorteh
Shorteh
3. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 4 2008, 6:17 PM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 6:17 PM EDT
LMAO.. Thanks. 4  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    

cupcake011
4. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 5 2008, 2:01 AM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 2:01 AM EDT
i dont wanna sound rude to the t-mo guru but you telling me that danger will de activate my phone if i hack in to it is weird because the t-mobile side kick slide is the only sidekick not made by danger but my motorolla so i wanna know how is that danger would get involved and de activate my phone? and motorolla allows ringtones to be downloaded so i do beleive there is a way noone has just found it yet cause the slide isnt made my danger its made by motorolla and motorolla and motorolla phones are allowed downloads 2  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
5. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 5 2008, 8:36 AM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 8:36 AM EDT
WOW YOUR SO DUMB!

All sidekicks are powered by danger servers.

Danger doesn't make Sidekicks dummy. Sharp does, and now motorolla.

It has nothing to do with the manufacturer. ITS THE SOFTWARE AND THE SERVERS THEY RUN ON.

The ring tone memory is stored internally and is not accessible to the consumer. It is only ascessible to a danger software developer. Everything on your sidekick (regardless of who makes it) is saved online, in a danger server. Danger created the technology you fool. Everytime yuo shut your phone off it saves every single bit of data on the server.

Its DANGER & TMOBILE that restricts the ring tones, not Motorolla

Once again, you cannot access the internal ringtone memory!

And its better that way. Let t-mobile make the money off of those cheap ringtones instead of making me pay more for my data plan!!!!

I have had sidekicks since they were black and white. Before you little kiddies got them for christmas.

And if you don't believe me call t-mo and ask for the sidekick department. They can activate and de-activate your phone at the push of a button. 7  out of 10 found this valuable. Do you?    
darkgoddess51
darkgoddess51
6. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 5 2008, 11:09 AM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 11:09 AM EDT
"WOW YOUR SO DUMB!

All sidekicks are powered by danger servers.

Danger doesn't make Sidekicks dummy. Sharp does, and now motorolla.

It has nothing to do with the manufacturer. ITS THE SOFTWARE AND THE SERVERS THEY RUN ON.

The ring tone memory is stored internally and is not accessible to the consumer. It is only ascessible to a danger software developer. Everything on your sidekick (regardless of who makes it) is saved online, in a danger server. Danger created the technology you fool. Everytime yuo shut your phone off it saves every single bit of data on the server.

Its DANGER & TMOBILE that restricts the ring tones, not Motorolla

Once again, you cannot access the internal ringtone memory!

And its better that way. Let t-mobile make the money off of those cheap ringtones instead of making me pay more for my data plan!!!!

I have had sidekicks since they were black and white. Before you little kiddies got them for christmas.

And if you don't believe me call t-mo and ask for the sidekick department. They can activate and de-activate your phone at the push of a button. "
Holy god, I love you gravity. I don't think these people are EVER going to get that you can't get free ringtones. It's never ending.
Thank you. 4  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
InHeRt
InHeRt
7. RE: Sidekick Lesson
May 5 2008, 3:49 PM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 3:49 PM EDT
thank you gravity. hopefully all those fools who think they can get free ringtones will read this and feel stupid!!!!!! 3  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
10. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Jun 4 2008, 4:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 4 2008, 4:34 PM EDT
Its so SAD that people spam on a Forum about Sidekicks..

HOW LAME! 2  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    

Dj75728
11. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 8 2008, 8:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2008, 8:45 PM EDT
Dev Kits are free and can be acquired by anyone in a matter of moments. Plus, ringtone sales don't in anyway subsidize data plans. That's marketing bull. The only thing keeping people from having custom ringtones is their own ignorance, and lack of computer skill. 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
12. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 9 2008, 9:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2008, 9:54 AM EDT
"Dev Kits are free and can be acquired by anyone in a matter of moments. Plus, ringtone sales don't in anyway subsidize data plans. That's marketing bull. The only thing keeping people from having custom ringtones is their own ignorance, and lack of computer skill."
I'm actually signed up for the new development program primarily for android.
and all content must be tested and certified by True North (not easy)
Most of the people complaining about paying for ringtones barely know how to spell, never mind develop content.


Now on to revenue. Don't mess with someone who is in the business world.

I have stock in T-mobile, and I do get their Annual Report sent to investors.

Lets look at 2007 revenue.
4th quarter earnings was $8.8 billion Euros (remember they are a dutch company.
can you guess what they made in Data & Mobile content (ringtones, games etc.)? they made over 2 billion euros!

That means almost a quarter 25% of the money they made was from data and mobile content!



here are the links to a couple of sites.

T-mobile makes close to 2 billion on mobile content
http://www.moconews.net/entry/419-earnings-t-mobile-revenue-up-86-percent-data-up-42-percent/

2007 t-mobile annual report
http://www.annualreport2007.telekom.de/en/ka/konzernanhang/sonstige_angaben/index.php?page=180

Developers story
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/09/t-mobile_usa_pr.html


Developers Site.
http://developer.t-mobile.com/site/global/home/p_home.jsp

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justarep
justarep
13. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 9 2008, 6:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2008, 6:23 PM EDT
T-Mobile is a _Dutch_ company? I'm pretty sure Deutsche-Telekom is GERMAN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Telekom

Oh, look. It is. I'm not disputing anything about T-Mobile's revenues, but that's a silly, silly error, grav. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
14. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 8:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 8:16 AM EDT
"T-Mobile is a _Dutch_ company? I'm pretty sure Deutsche-Telekom is GERMAN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Telekom

Oh, look. It is. I'm not disputing anything about T-Mobile's revenues, but that's a silly, silly error, grav."
your right man, My bad.

They are german, I easily confuse them with the Dutch country Netherlands.

I'm always checking out their Netherlands site.
I'm so jealous that they have the Iphone 3G on tmobile.
Not to mention all the coolest smart phones
Check their site. Eventually the iphone will be available to T-Mobile USA.

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victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
15. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 8:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 8:17 AM EDT
http://www.t-mobile.nl/Persoonlijk/htdocs/page/homepage.aspx

Forgot to paste the site

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kickitLX
kickitLX
16. RE: Sidekick Lesson
Oct 10 2008, 10:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 10:00 AM EDT
"P.S. T-mo makes MILLIONS of dollars on downloadable content, which offsets the price of unlimited emails, internet, Instant messaging, and texts.

Would you rather pay $50 for a DATA plan and have free ringtones.
Or pay $20 bucks for a data plan and buy a ring tone once and a while.

Please get off the subject now.

Thanks,

T-MO GURU"
Very nice.You will be amazed at how many people will kill for the ringtones. 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
THE_SIDEKICK_NINJA
THE_SIDEKICK_NINJA
17. RE: Sidekick Lesson
Oct 10 2008, 12:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 12:15 PM EDT
that's VOG for you......great post! 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Dj75728
18. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 2:51 PM EDT
"I'm always checking out their Netherlands site.
I'm so jealous that they have the Iphone 3G on tmobile.
Not to mention all the coolest smart phones
Check their site. Eventually the iphone will be available to T-Mobile USA.

"
Where exactly does it say that? I haven't gotten any info about T-mo getting the iPhone anytime soon. Especially since AT&T extended their exclusivity contract.

Plus, the 3G isn't so much better than the 2G(except for the 3G speed that is), so why not just pick up an unlocked 2G? 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Dj75728
19. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 2:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 2:52 PM EDT
"I'm so jealous that they have the Iphone 3G on tmobile.

"
Wait a sec. I was under the impression everyone here was like, gung-ho for sidekicks. Not to mention anti-iPhone. My mistake I suppose. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
victimsofgravity
victimsofgravity
20. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 4:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 4:17 PM EDT
"Wait a sec. I was under the impression everyone here was like, gung-ho for sidekicks. Not to mention anti-iPhone. My mistake I suppose."
No way.. I'm on way to testing android.. too many kiddies with sidekicks.. 0  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    

Dj75728
21. RE: Advertise on social mediums
Oct 10 2008, 7:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 10 2008, 7:54 PM EDT
"No way.. I'm on way to testing android.. too many kiddies with sidekicks.. "
I agree. Android's nice. I'd wait for a newer Android phone though, the G1 is merely a sign of what's to come. Much better than most, but not quite an iPhone or N96 ya know? 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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